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Tour: Trans Europe Excess Country: Sweden City: Stockholm, Sweden Venue: Electric Garden, Stockholm, Sweden Event: (not available) Reviews: (not available) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Clif Duhn: The best thing about the show is that Andrew is completely drunk off his rocker. His voice cracks and his speech is slurred, and I think I hear what sounds like him falling down. Some of the comments are pretty funny. Someone in the audience asks "Where's the drummer?" to which Andy replies, "He's in the box!" He then asks, "What's in the basket?" The one comment which is most confusing though, is when he says"We've got a new guitarist who can't be with us tonight, so next time, there'll be four people." He obviously means Wayne, so this was the last gig before Wayne's debut at the Birmingham Tin Can in April '84. This means that the show must have occured after the October US dates, probably November, which is what two other collectors with the tape list is as. However, an extremely knowledgeable Italian collector with this tape lists it as Oct 26, before the US shows. Go Figure. I've also never been able to tell by listening whether there was one or two guitarists at the LA and SF shows. I've heard conflicting stories from people who were there, but no one can be expected to remember how many people were on stage at a show 15 years ago. As I said before, the Stockholm show does not appear on any gig lists whether from fanbooks, or tape trader lists. Strangely, the "official" gig list in UTR 6 does not list it either, but does list a show in the UK in December of '83. There's a slight possibility that the Stockholm tape is actually this December UK show, but that is unlikely. There are Swedes who swear the gig happened, and of course there is what sounds like Swedish chatter in the audience on the tape. There are probably tapes of Sisters shows that are more rare, but none are more sought after than the Stockholm tape. Maybe it's because the gig was some sort of secret one-off thing. Who knows why this tape more than any other is so sought after? (I personally think such items as a complete New York 13-4-84 tape and the Stuttgart Maxim 12-11-84 video are harder to find.) Nevertheless, probably less than a dozen people worldwide have this tape, maybe less, as I only know of three for sure, or four, if you count the original taper, whoever that may be. Needless to say, almost everyone who has it lists it as a non trade-able, not-for-sale item. Of course, to the casual collector, it's probably no big deal. Hope that sheds some light on the subject. Unfortunately, since it's been 15 years since the tape was made, it's not likely that any real info on it is going to surface any time soon. From Anders Jacobsson: I saw the Sisters in Gothenburg, Sweden at Mudd Club may 1985. Actually on 15th may and not 16th as printed on bootlegs from this show. I still got the ticket which also says 15th. I remember that it was on a wednesday and that it was Eldritch´s birthday. He did alter some lyrics in First And Last And Always (he did the same thing in Stockholm two days after), he sang "seems like twenty-six of ever after, ever more" instead of "twenty-five". And according to bassist Craig Adams, this was their first concert in Sweden. And no papers or concert organizers have no memory, contracts, notes of the band playing here before. There are rumours that Sisters played at the Electric Garden oct. 26th 1983. No one at the Electric Garden have heard about it, it should have been documented. And the date itself october 26th. Only three days before standing on a stage in Los Angeles? Sounds unlikely. And I don´t think they played any gigs after the US tour, some of the members were in a bad shape at that time. And if, why in Sweden? It was almost impossible to find their records before 1984, there was no reason for them to play here and I doubt that the booking people at the Electric Garden would book Sisters 1983 to this venue, only 30-50 people would attend since they were almost unknown here at that time. So my guess is that this is a tape which somewhere by someone simply got misslisted, this happens rather often in the bootleg world as you might know. Of course I can be wrong, but with all facts it takes a lot to prove that Sisters played in Stockholm 1983. From Clif Duhn: Simply because no one remembers a performance by a band that was at the time admittedly not very well known does not mean it did not happen. Especially a show which happened 15 years ago. As I mentioned before, one of the possible reasons the tape is so sought after may be because the gig was some soft of secret one-off thing. The fact that the Sisters were relatively unknown at the time lends credence to that possibility. Of course, you could very well be right, as I also mentioned the possibility that the tape is actually some other show. The strange thing is, I have tapes of every show during that time period (when they played Temple of Love live). It's well established that TOL debuted live at the Paradiso in Amsterdam, and was played at all of the following dates until the end of the year. These are all the gigs of that time period: 28.08.83 AMSTERDAM, PARADISO 30.08.83 BERLIN METROPOL LOFT CLUB 31.08.83 HAMBURG KIR CLUB 01.09.83 MUNSTER, ODEON 29.10.83 LOS ANGELES, ALEXANDRIA HOTEL 31.10.83 SAN FRANSISCO, I-BEAM The alleged Stockholm tape is definitely not the same as any of the above tapes. I agree that it 's unlikely that the Sisters played Stockholm on the 26th and LA on the 29th, so I tend to believe the date is November, which coincides with Andrew's statement that the next time they would appear (Birmingham), they would have four people. If it really is some mislabeled tape, it would still be a very rare item, as it's definitely a show that does not appear on the majority of tape lists. However, one would think that a tape which has gained such revered status among collectors would not be carelessly mislabeled in the first place. My point is that I guess we'll never know, but regardless, it does appear that this particular tape will always be known as the Stockholm '83 show. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||